Nicolas Hazard (Inco): “85% of professions by 2030 are not yet”

In “What can we do for you?”, Nicolas Hazard talks to students and everyone who is already working out on an activity and getting up to work tomorrow.

Nicolas Hazard is the founding president of Inco, a consolidated and sustainable investment firm. He is also a special adviser to the European Commission for social and economic cohesion and was recently published What can we do for you? published by Flammarion.

According to Nicolas Hazard, preparations for tomorrow’s jobs are urgent.

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THE FIGARO STUDENT. – With this title What can we do for you? do you want to talk to parents or students?

Nicolas Hazard. – Both! This book is made for everyone who practices a profession and students who want to orient themselves. We are all affected by the turmoil that lies ahead. The 4th industrial revolution we are experiencing (that of robotics, artificial intelligence, connected objects, the metaverse, etc.) is changing our economy and this trend will only intensify. There is no more linear triptych Studies-Work-Retirement, from now on we will all have to go to school again.

“You don’t go from one job to another untrained” Nicholas Hazard

You start your book with this sentence: “85% of professions by 2030 are not yet in their current form”. Should you be classified into the category of declinists or optimists?

I am very optimistic. Certainly many jobs will be lost, especially due to the automation of some jobs. However, I am convinced that many jobs will be done at the same time, and in greater numbers than those destroyed. But watch out, I’m optimistic but also cautious. We don’t move from one job to another untrained, and this is the basic message of my book: urgently prepare and train ourselves to use the professions of tomorrow.

So you have a Schumpeterian view of our society?

Maybe yes. Past industrial revolutions have shown us that our economy hates emptiness. Contrary to popular belief, the countries with the most robots in the world, I think Japan in particular, are those with one of the lowest unemployment rates in the world, about 3%. The big challenge of this industrial revolution, and one of its specifics, is that it is no longer just blue workers who are worried. White-collar workers will also find their jobs partially executed faster and more efficiently through artificial intelligence (AI).

In reading you, we know that it is the contact and relationship professions that ride this wave of AI.

Tomorrow, the most sought after is the connection between robot and human. These are called cobotics. The robot will do the best it knows, i.e. the most repetitive and difficult tasks, while the human will focus more on what makes it unique: its ability to communicate, gain empathy, empathize. analyzing complex problems, inventing new things … This is another reason for optimism, beyond the clichés of science fiction, robots will not replace us, but rather add to us.

Let’s talk about training, Inco, which you lead, claims to train more than 400,000 people worldwide. So training is part of your DNA. And so it’s no coincidence that throughout the book you talk about training …

Inco is a group I created about ten years ago and that aims to build a new, more sustainable economy that benefits everyone. Training people for tomorrow’s jobs is already one of them, especially among those farthest from work. Our goal is to get them started so they can find their place in the job market. Following all these paths, their difficulties but also their successes, made me want to share my experience through this book.

“Traditional pedagogy has a leading wing”Nicholas Hazard

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Does this mean we need to change our model of education?

For me this is an absolute priority, despite a difficult teaching staff. But it is clear that traditional pedagogy has a leading wing. Countries such as Denmark or Finland (at the high level of the famous ranking of Pisa) have long implemented so-called active pedagogies, which is to say where the child is the central player in his learning. It is no longer someone who knows (the teacher) who passes on his or her knowledge to the students, who must swallow it before it can be examined, but the child who builds his or her knowledge through research situations.

And if the next Minister of Labor asks you for advice. What is it?

In addition to the school, it is also the whole training system that we need to constantly examine from top to bottom. Both by continuing to develop apprenticeship, of course, but also by developing alternative methods such as AFEST (which allows training only in one company), by developing VAE (to get professionals certification through validation of the achievements of his experiences) … The support of his youth should be an absolute priority and we should put the package.

We will remain in the gallery of the 21 professions you present. It ranges from “nano-doctor” to “nostalgist” through “re-wild” or even “robot psychologist”. It’s almost science fiction….

It is rather a projection in relation to what is already there. Let’s take the example of the Meta-Architect, basically someone who builds your home or business for you in virtual reality worlds, these identical worlds where the youngest spend a lot of their time. You should know that some have already spent millions (and this is not an expression) to acquire land on which they can build buildings. It may be crazy, but it’s already a real economic reality. The rise of crypto currencies combined with virtual reality will give birth to these new jobs. Like cricket breeders: we are 8 billion people, soon to be 10 billion in a few decades, we will need new sources of protein to feed the planet, especially given the carbon footprint on a prime rib … Many countries in Africa and Asia are doing this on a large scale. So yes there are many vocations to apply to the profession of cricket coaches!

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Any advice for parents and students?

Through this book, I want to show that we can all see our workplace. Many opportunities will arise, so we need to remain positive about the future. There are definitely scientific professions, a kind of Holy Grail in the job market, but not only … Whether it’s creative professions, those in relational and communication, or those calling our analytical skills, There’s something for every taste. The secret to success tomorrow is simple: you have to accept the training and it will last for the rest of your life. Our students need to clearly understand that what they are learning now is important but it is not enough. And it’s even better in the end, because you don’t always find your way when you’re young, experimenting and learning about the process. In the end, therefore, the main thing is to learn how to learn.

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